Official Anime/Manga Discussion Thread
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I don't really want to get into that argument right now, but it really comes down to your own interpretation of what "anime" is. It does not help that there are roughly 3-4 competing definitions for "anime" at the moment, with no outright winner. Regardless of what definition you go with though, there will always be exceptions to the rule.
I have more or less adopted a hybrid approach; if a show enough qualities from any particular version of the definition ill call it anime; whether it is style, location, content, or a combination thereof.
I have more or less adopted a hybrid approach; if a show enough qualities from any particular version of the definition ill call it anime; whether it is style, location, content, or a combination thereof.
there are only 2 legit position to hold
1. The Japanese position - in Japan ALL comics are manga.. x-men in manga, peanuts is manga, etc... and all animation is anime... that includes Disney movies like Beauty and the Beast, and even a CG movie like Minions... but this is a ridiculous approach to take in the west... what are just words there have become mediums here. In this case arguing that Avatar is anime means you also have to argue that Scooby Doo is.
2. The western position - anime means animation produced in Japan... this doesn't mean animated in japan, but at the higher levels of production... meaning written by, characters designs by, directed by, etc.. anime studios often outsource their actual animation to Korea and China just as the west outsourced Saturday morning cartoon animation to Japan (X-Men for example). Animation itself is just the labor... how it animated is determined by the storyboards, by the Director, and by the studio producing it... that is the heart behind any creative endeavor.
any other position is BS
1. The Japanese position - in Japan ALL comics are manga.. x-men in manga, peanuts is manga, etc... and all animation is anime... that includes Disney movies like Beauty and the Beast, and even a CG movie like Minions... but this is a ridiculous approach to take in the west... what are just words there have become mediums here. In this case arguing that Avatar is anime means you also have to argue that Scooby Doo is.
2. The western position - anime means animation produced in Japan... this doesn't mean animated in japan, but at the higher levels of production... meaning written by, characters designs by, directed by, etc.. anime studios often outsource their actual animation to Korea and China just as the west outsourced Saturday morning cartoon animation to Japan (X-Men for example). Animation itself is just the labor... how it animated is determined by the storyboards, by the Director, and by the studio producing it... that is the heart behind any creative endeavor.
any other position is BS
Akame ga Kill
Anohana
*Another
Chaika
Charlotte
Code Geass
DNA^2
*Erased
*Interlude
*Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Samurai Flamenco
School Days
*Serial Experiments Lain
The Future Diary
Welcome to the NHK
I literally just scoured through Crunchyroll's entire series listing to put that together * are my top picks
I surely missed soem along the way as I quickly scanned them...
but my top picks
*Another - great for Halloween, a creepy ghost story in which kids in a classroom are dying
*Erased - one of the best anime in a long while... has time travel, a little bit of Groundhogs day looping, a murder mystery, childhood nostalgia, etc...
*Interlude - so this made it all worth it, I have been looking for this show, I had forgotten the name.. only 3 eps, but eps are long
*Puella Magi Madoka Magica - brilliant dark deconstruction of the sailor moon magical girl genre
*Serial Experiments Lain - amazing series about tech and such, a girl just gets completely absorbed into computers, awesome show
some notes on a few others
School Days is like the typical highschool harem series, except stuff happens, sex and complications and such
Charlotte ended up becoming much more than I expected from it initially, kind of an anime trope version of mutant prosecution and abuse stories (x-men)
Samurai Flamenco is another one that ended up beign much mroe than I thought it would be based on the early episodes, it is a deconstruction of sentai (power rangers) shows.
Anohana
*Another
Chaika
Charlotte
Code Geass
DNA^2
*Erased
*Interlude
*Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Samurai Flamenco
School Days
*Serial Experiments Lain
The Future Diary
Welcome to the NHK
I literally just scoured through Crunchyroll's entire series listing to put that together * are my top picks
I surely missed soem along the way as I quickly scanned them...
but my top picks
*Another - great for Halloween, a creepy ghost story in which kids in a classroom are dying
*Erased - one of the best anime in a long while... has time travel, a little bit of Groundhogs day looping, a murder mystery, childhood nostalgia, etc...
*Interlude - so this made it all worth it, I have been looking for this show, I had forgotten the name.. only 3 eps, but eps are long
*Puella Magi Madoka Magica - brilliant dark deconstruction of the sailor moon magical girl genre
*Serial Experiments Lain - amazing series about tech and such, a girl just gets completely absorbed into computers, awesome show
some notes on a few others
School Days is like the typical highschool harem series, except stuff happens, sex and complications and such
Charlotte ended up becoming much more than I expected from it initially, kind of an anime trope version of mutant prosecution and abuse stories (x-men)
Samurai Flamenco is another one that ended up beign much mroe than I thought it would be based on the early episodes, it is a deconstruction of sentai (power rangers) shows.
I started LotGH a while back, but I found it pacing very jarring. Ill give it another shot sooner or later. Completed Space Dandy a few semesters back.
Honestly, I absolutely hated the half of those that I have seen. We seam to have polar oposite tastes. (Although I did LOVE Samurai Flamenco until it flipped the table)
I am not sure if you are serious or trolling me. I can never really tell with you.
Honestly, I absolutely hated the half of those that I have seen. We seam to have polar oposite tastes. (Although I did LOVE Samurai Flamenco until it flipped the table)
I am not sure if you are serious or trolling me. I can never really tell with you.
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I actually didnt mind it, it wasnt bad but nothing special. There's an extended Ranma reference so instant 6/10.
Gunbuster and Gunbuster 2 are short and sweet together, despite being made in different eras with different styles. If you havent seen them yet.
Madoka is good but I'd recommend watching Rebellion afterward. Or maybe you shouldnt, at least not until they release the sequel to that. oh but its so good
Gunbuster and Gunbuster 2 are short and sweet together, despite being made in different eras with different styles. If you havent seen them yet.
Madoka is good but I'd recommend watching Rebellion afterward. Or maybe you shouldnt, at least not until they release the sequel to that. oh but its so good
@FriedShoes Duly noted. Ill add it to my list.
welp, I give up.
Going through Vento Aureo manga. Found some absolutely sweet color scans and very good translation (lemme know if you want a link), gonna see if I can blast through it all.
ah, Katanagatari is 12 episodes long, complete story. There's an extended gag/joke in the first few episodes with a pretty good payoff, especially when you consider the anime aired over a year, with month long waits between each episode.
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So Jojo Part 5 was pretty cool.
But Jojo Part 6 is amazing. Basically perfect. And fitting, considering the next two parts. This one would take a shitload more effort to animate, so part6never.
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HOLY FUCK
Ok wow I didnt actually trust it in the beginning but man Part 7 is amazing too! Like, might be tied for favorite right now. Damn, damn! What do I do now?
I'm gonna merge these posts but look at these panels, pure art!
Going through Vento Aureo manga. Found some absolutely sweet color scans and very good translation (lemme know if you want a link), gonna see if I can blast through it all.
ah, Katanagatari is 12 episodes long, complete story. There's an extended gag/joke in the first few episodes with a pretty good payoff, especially when you consider the anime aired over a year, with month long waits between each episode.
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So Jojo Part 5 was pretty cool.
But Jojo Part 6 is amazing. Basically perfect. And fitting, considering the next two parts. This one would take a shitload more effort to animate, so part6never.
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HOLY FUCK
Ok wow I didnt actually trust it in the beginning but man Part 7 is amazing too! Like, might be tied for favorite right now. Damn, damn! What do I do now?
I'm gonna merge these posts but look at these panels, pure art!
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talk of the season seems to be Devilman Crybaby. Have yet to see it, but it looks very unique.
I did watch the first episode of Pop Team Epic, the anime adaptation of the 4-cell japanese shitposting comic that you've probably seen in some form somewhere where shitposts exist. Much to my surprise, the anime is also a giant shitpost, actually admirable of them to do what they did.
I did watch the first episode of Pop Team Epic, the anime adaptation of the 4-cell japanese shitposting comic that you've probably seen in some form somewhere where shitposts exist. Much to my surprise, the anime is also a giant shitpost, actually admirable of them to do what they did.
Actually yes. That stuff earlier was just for snorts and chuckles.
I watched DBZ back in Middle School, got into Cowboy Bebop (still need to start that over), and watched a little bit of Samurai X. I dated a girl back in the day that was way too anime for my tastes and I think that soured a lot of it for me. Something about the whole abandonment of your identity for a bastardized version of what you think Japan is like based off of cartoon culture was very odd. I don't miss hanging around those people.
I also love me some Studio Ghibli-esque epics but I'm not sure that really counts as anime.
I realize there are redeeming aspects to the art style but there are just certain parts I could live without.
I watched DBZ back in Middle School, got into Cowboy Bebop (still need to start that over), and watched a little bit of Samurai X. I dated a girl back in the day that was way too anime for my tastes and I think that soured a lot of it for me. Something about the whole abandonment of your identity for a bastardized version of what you think Japan is like based off of cartoon culture was very odd. I don't miss hanging around those people.
I also love me some Studio Ghibli-esque epics but I'm not sure that really counts as anime.
I realize there are redeeming aspects to the art style but there are just certain parts I could live without.
I just marathoned Devilman Crybaby.
First 6-ish episodes? Bad. The sort of anime you show to people if you want to turn them off of anime forever, and thereby control the potential weeb population.
Last 4-ish episodes? Alright, despite the animation taking a nose dive here and there.
Of those last 4 episodes, the final 2? Legitimately OK.
First 6-ish episodes? Bad. The sort of anime you show to people if you want to turn them off of anime forever, and thereby control the potential weeb population.
Last 4-ish episodes? Alright, despite the animation taking a nose dive here and there.
Of those last 4 episodes, the final 2? Legitimately OK.
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Nice as topic. In any case, it's a good idea. So for my part I did not follow many series for lack of time with the job, but, this summer, I spotted Love and Lies and Altaïr, and I finally only watched the first episode of Altaïr, that I found rather well, honest with the manga (without succeeding to equal the beauty of the manga but hey that's normal), but I have not looked the rest so far, while I really like the manga.
I will end up no longer watching anime I think.
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I've been trying to enhance my Ghibli knowledge lately. I had only watched Princess Mononoke once before, so I re-watched it. The dub didn't bother me nearly as much this time (slow down, Billy Bob), and the overall pacing seemed a bit better this time. It has a fantastic plot and wonderfully morally murky characters, but it still hasn't quite blown me away like it has others.
So I popped in Spirited Away to see if I'd like it more. I do, slightly. What really strikes me with this one is just how talented a director Miyazaki is. The long camera pans, the framing of scenes, his ability to let a long-focus shot tell a story...he's a better cinematographer than most. Not in anime, but in all of film.
Still, neither one of these are the sort of anime that I'd recommend to people who aren't already fans of anime. They're fantastic examples of the medium at its best, but they don't quite transcend it.
Next up, backtracking to Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Then I'll dive into Takahata: Grave of the Fireflies and The Tale of Princess Kaguya.
So I popped in Spirited Away to see if I'd like it more. I do, slightly. What really strikes me with this one is just how talented a director Miyazaki is. The long camera pans, the framing of scenes, his ability to let a long-focus shot tell a story...he's a better cinematographer than most. Not in anime, but in all of film.
Still, neither one of these are the sort of anime that I'd recommend to people who aren't already fans of anime. They're fantastic examples of the medium at its best, but they don't quite transcend it.
Next up, backtracking to Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Then I'll dive into Takahata: Grave of the Fireflies and The Tale of Princess Kaguya.