RUMOUR: NINTENDO NX TO DROP DISCS FOR CARTRIDGES

TheAmazingLSB

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#1
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/05/rumour-nintendo-nx-to-drop-discs-for-cartridges

"The financial statements of the company that provides Nintendo's ROM chips - used in both consoles and for 3DS game cartridges - have sparked speculation as to whether the upcoming Nintendo NX will drop the use of optical disc drives in favour of cartridges.

As spotted by Screen Critics, Chinese memory manufacturer Macronix is reportedly expecting an increased order of ROM chips from Nintendo, and company chairman Wu Miin made specific reference to the NX in his financial briefing (reported by Money-Link and translated by NeoGAF user Jim_Cacher):

"In the past, Macronix sales performance usually peaked at third quarter, while declined at the fourth quarter. However, Wu Miin pointed out that because Nintendo has announced that the new platform will be launched in March next year, orders should be placed in advance. Therefore, the operating revenue of Macronix in the fourth quarter may be as good as the third quarter."

An increased need for ROM chips above and beyond the usual level required for 3DS game production has been touted by some as possible evidence of a return to cartridge-based game delivery for Nintendo. Cartridges were dropped for the GameCube, and all subsequent consoles used disc drives.

The high-speed nature of cartridges could obviate the need for PS4-style game installations and, if the rumours of the NX being a handheld/home console hybrid are true, the lack of an optical disc drive would make the console far more portable.

There are mitigating factors here - the NX could very well just include internal ROM chips, leading to that increased demand (although some have questioned whether the potential size and quality of Macronix's latest chips would be required for an internal component).

Screen Critics also reports that Macronix recently began testing chips with a capacity of 32GB, and that these could be what Nintendo plans to purchase. Given that Xbox One and PS4 both use 50GB capacity Blu-Ray discs, and many games exceed even that, forcing extra features to be downloaded, there's some question as to whether Nintendo would adopt a format that reduced the need for installs, but still required it for many modern games.

There's a chance that all of this is moot - last year, Nintendo filed a patent for a console with no disc drive, but emphasised the use of downloads to a hard drive for game distribution. Even that's being used as evidence of cartridges by some, however, as the patent also includes a "read/write card slot"

This should all be cleared up soon enough - Nintendo has announced thatthe NX will launch globally in March 2017, although we won't see it at E3."

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http://nintendoenthusiast.com/forum...-what-does-that-mean-for-the-rest-of-us.3818/
 

FriedShoes

MLG
Moderator
#3
Our hearty discussion on the subject before this rumor has me very willing to accept this.

However, the size issue is becoming increasingly ridiculous, could be mitigated by some necessary game downloads but that kind of defeats the point if a cartridge system then, doesnt it?
 

Shoulder

Your Resident Beardy Bear
#5
Our hearty discussion on the subject before this rumor has me very willing to accept this.

However, the size issue is becoming increasingly ridiculous, could be mitigated by some necessary game downloads but that kind of defeats the point if a cartridge system then, doesnt it?
It is possible for them to go to 64GB, possibly 128GB, but that could be mighty expensive for games like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty though. I mean, at he same time, while you don't want to restrict developers on space, they should also understand how to optimize their code so file sizes don't ballon up so much. Why is a game like COD one of the biggest games in terms of file size?
 

AutisAwsome

AKA FloppyPony. I am on twitter and facebook to :3
#6
the only worry I have for the cartirges is that the graphics may not be as good and their wont be so much extra features but Nintendo games have often not been about collecting stuff or tons of end game content but more about storyline an fun and they manage to do that pretty well with 3ds games so I am not very worried really
 

AutisAwsome

AKA FloppyPony. I am on twitter and facebook to :3
#8
I hope they go with a front loading design like NES if this is true; A top loading scheme would not fit in my gaming space.
yeah I got barely any space for consoles anymore. my entire desk in my bedroom is full of multi platform consoles on their sides so they fit and even all the floor in the back room has got all my retro consoles on it hehe :oops:
 

AutisAwsome

AKA FloppyPony. I am on twitter and facebook to :3
#10
If they do cartridges, I see them fully inserting into the system like the 3DS and not sticking out of the top like the N64.
I agree. I think they will do that. it makes the most sense. but I do worry about having another giant screen to chug around with me to play my Nintendo games. it should be mobile or not mobile not try to be inbetween
 

FriedShoes

MLG
Moderator
#14
the only worry I have for the cartirges is that the graphics may not be as good and their wont be so much extra features but Nintendo games have often not been about collecting stuff or tons of end game content but more about storyline an fun and they manage to do that pretty well with 3ds games so I am not very worried really
Format doesnt really have any say on graphics other than how much data there is and how fast it can be read.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#15
I would say this isn't really a rumor, it's speculation.

We do know for a fact Macronix is expecting an increase in ROM production by years end due in part to the NX releasing in March of 2017, but we have no idea what it could be for. It could be for cartridges, but it could just as easily be for system ROM. It's worth noting they produced the ROM used in the Wii U Macronix, so I wouldn't really read into this a whole lot.
 

Shoulder

Your Resident Beardy Bear
#17
I would say this isn't really a rumor, it's speculation.

We do know for a fact Macronix is expecting an increase in ROM production by years end due in part to the NX releasing in March of 2017, but we have no idea what it could be for. It could be for cartridges, but it could just as easily be for system ROM. It's worth noting they produced the ROM used in the Wii U Macronix, so I wouldn't really read into this a whole lot.
Are you talking about rom or ram, because those are two different things?

EDIT: Also, one of the talks going around is Macronix expects a lot of potential growth in the months leading up to the NX launch and past that. If you're only supplying system-based memory, that would not really have as much growth potential, but 3DS-based cards at 32GB or larger? Now that would lead a lot of expanded and further growth potential.
 
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TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#18
Are you talking about rom or ram, because those are two different things?

EDIT: Also, one of the talks going around is Macronix expects a lot of potential growth in the months leading up to the NX launch and past that. If you're only supplying system-based memory, that would not really have as much growth potential, but 3DS-based cards at 32GB or larger? Now that would lead a lot of expanded and further growth potential.
ROM. The Wii U has a ROM chip from them for the BIOS if I remember right.

Good point. I'm not convinced they were talking about the NX when mentioning growth potential though. This is the quote I'm assuming you are talking about:
Wu Miin noted that before the launch of Nintendo's new platform, the sales of ROM is expected to remain unchanged in this year, but there is growth potential.

Source.
It sounds more to me like they aren't expecting any increases until the NX orders come in, but they wouldn't rule it out (PS4K? I believe the PS4 uses a Macronix ROM chip like the Wii U).

I wish we had a more concrete translation to go by, that could help clear things up significantly.
 

thekiller7

The Seven and Only
#21
I don't have to do it with my 3DS so I don't know why I would have to do it with NX.

I for one am excited just because I've been on #team2017, and #teamcart for a great long while now. Everything is comin up Mattavelle:mgrin:
Yeah I was just fucking around.


But yeah.. I was #team2017toldyousomotherfuckers the entire time.

But cartridges. In all honestly if they can do it and make it work and make it cheaper than a disc, then it could work. The data can be installed onto the HDD like the PS4 and X1 do.
I just think it will be a cost issue that kills off the cartridge idea.
 

Odo

Well-Known Member
#22
No dev will make cartridges for a Nintendo home console. Nintendo has to be gone completely insane before doing this.

The only reason 3DS doesn't run blu-rays is because it's too small.
 

mattavelle1

IT’S GOT A DEATH RAY!
Moderator
#23
No dev will make cartridges for a Nintendo home console. Nintendo has to be gone completely insane before doing this.

The only reason 3DS doesn't run blu-rays is because it's too small.
The 40 million instal base of the 3DS says that game makers would write there game on a turd if they were putting it out on a market that big.

PSP was on disk don't forget, but they just couldn't get a foothold. It's not about the medium, it's about how big the market is. :mthumb:
 

Odo

Well-Known Member
#24
I think it's about the medium too.

You can print blu-rays everywhere, while Nintendo will have to have control of cartridges printing.

3DS and Vita are Japanese stuff. Tons of devs don't make games for those two consoles and those who make don't expect to sell 10m to 15m copies like many games sell on PS4 every month.

Cartridges today, as flash cards, are technically superior, but going back to it in a world that everything is digital and that games are installed on the console is hard to justify.
 
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