Wii U / 3DS sales thread

nerdman

pig's gotta fly
#51
Why are its expectations set so high? I know a lot didn't expect to do better than Wii. Sometimes I wonder if Nintendo truly expected it to sell as well; it's like they birdman themselves.

If it's selling steady, then they are better situation than the 3DS. They can maintain the price point for awhile which nets them a small profit until the next consoles come.

I don't think Nintendo has done the best job conveying what's fun about the gamepad especially compared to the wiimote which was very easy for someone to understand the appeal simply by seeing a controller.
 

Cubits

Well-Known Member
#52
"nerdman" wrote: I don't Nintendo has done a very good job conveying what's fun about the gamepad especially compared to the wiimote which was very easy for someone to understand the appeal simply by seeing a controller.
Well the wiimote was incredibly easy to explain, even a french mime could give you a solid rundown on it.

The gamepad, at best requires a PIP view of both sides of the asymmetric gameplay, and needs to show people holding it and saying "wow, it's actually light and comfortable to use! I swore i'd dump this for the PRO controller, since i'm a CoD pro!". It's a whole other beast to sell to people. Forum users including myself, came back after going hands-on with the thing and were impressed beyond their expectations, and we're the (generally) most informed consumers of the industry!

The marketing COULD be better, sure, but it'll never ever be sold as easily as the Wiimote was.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#53
What this... some not so good Wii U sales...... Time for another Wii U sales update! (fancy text here: http://technologyhobbit.blogspot.com/20 ... sales.html)

Note: sales figures that have some data from VGChartz and other unreliable places are marked with a *

Wii U
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 425,000+
Second Week (25th-1st): 130,733*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 145,229*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 151,256*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 155,441*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 82,049*

Total: 1,089,708*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 178,615*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 90,619*
Third Week (9th-15th): 69,739*
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 75,116*
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 53,638*

Total: 469,064*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 308,570
Second Week (10th-16th): 126,916
Third Week (17th-23rd): 122,843
Forth Week (24th-30th): 77,054*

Total: 635,383*

Other:
First 5 Days (18th-24th): 50,249*
Second Week (25th-1st): 16,114*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 60,431*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 41,873*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 41,442*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 25,789*

Total: 235,898*

Grand Total: 2,430,053 (903,084+).

Games (games are listed in order of how many sales they have)

1. 000+/- Nintendo Land:
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 323,709*
Second Week (25th-1st): 77,385*
Third Week (2nd-8th):112,427*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 120,984*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 123,828*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 65,506*
Total: 823,839*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 124,490*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 71,663*
Third Week (9th-15th): 56,541*
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 57,470*
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 35,148*
Total: 346,599*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 72,121 (+5,538)
Second Week (10th-16th): 41,497
Third Week (17th-23rd): 51,373
Forth Week (24th-30th): 40,768*
Total: 205,759*

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 57,125*
Second Week (25th-1st): 33,922*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 31,506*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 30,554*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 31,208*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 17,282*
Total: 201,597*

Grand Total: 1,577,794* (678,984+)

2. 000+/- New Super Mario Bros. U:
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 243,000
Second Week (25th-1st): 62,104*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 78,511*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 85,276*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 92,457*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 60,954*
Total: 622,302*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 90,507*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 50,687*
Third Week (9th-15th): 41,960*
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 45,407*
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 34,281*
Total: 262,558*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 163,528 (+3,388)
Second Week (10th-16th): 71,011
Third Week (17th-23rd): 77,749
Forth Week (24th-30th): 56,082*
Total: 368,370*

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 47,002*
Second Week (25th-1st): 25,694*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 22,106*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 21,880*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 23,708*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 16,338*
Total: 156,728*


Grand Total: 1,409,958* (630,207+)

3. 000+/- ZombiU:
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 78,965*
Second Week (25th-1st): 19,391*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 23,942
Forth Week (9th-15th): 20,676*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 12,709*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 6,076*
Total: 157,009*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 52,922*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 25,719
Third Week (9th-15th): 18,068*
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 15,776*
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 10,026*
Total: 120,510*

Japan:
First 2 Days (8th-10th): 12,497*
Second Week (10th-16th): 4,229*
Third Week (17th-23rd): 3,061*
Forth Week (24th-30th): 2,337*
Total: 22,124*

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 13,935*
Second Week (25th-1st): 12,037*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 8,412*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 6,590*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 4,811*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 2,704*
Total: 48,489*

Grand Total: 346,968* (100,965+)

4. 000+/- Call of Duty: Black Ops II
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 102,289* (24,719+)

Europe (30th-1st): 37,830* (16,673+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 24,211* (10,911+)

Grand Total: 164,330* (48,469+)

5. 000+/- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Japan (8th-30th): 162,320 (+55,866)

Grand Total: 162,320 (+55,866)

6. 003+ Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 72,364* (37,800+)

Europe (Nov 30th-Dec 29th): 60,862* (39,232+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 22,678* (12,325+)

Grand Total: 155,904* (84,969+)

7. 000+/- Just Dance 4
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 87,631* (33,465+)

Europe (30th-1st): 37,744* (16,265+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 21,610* (9,513+)

Grand Total: 146,985* (65,388+)

8. 001- Scribblenauts: Unlimited
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 111,465* (38,238+)

NEW Europe (Nov 30th-Dec 29th): 1,389 (1,389+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 19,897 (6352+)

Grand Total: 132,751* (46,601+)

9. 001+ Assassin's Creed III
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 61,343* (21,641+)

Europe (30th-8th): 30,391* (17,948+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 15,774* (5,995+)

Grand Total: 107,508* (46,331+)

10. 002- Batman: Arkham City
US (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 66,122* (21,434+)

Europe (30th-8th): 25,260* (13,226+)

Other (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 15,780* (7,897+)

Grand Total: 107,162* (40,595+)

11. 000+/- Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 84,921* (34,034+)

12. 000+/- ESPN: Sports Connection
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 70,985* (31,088+)

13. 000+/- Skylanders Giants
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 64,149* (28,423+)

14. 002+ FIFA 13
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 55,682* (30,167+)

15. 001- Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 48,020* (16,159+)

16. 002+ Darksiders II
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 46,050* (25,629+)

17. 003- Sing Party
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 43,362* (12,677+)

18. 000+/- Mass Effect 3
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 39,840* (13,995+)

19. 002+ WipeOut 3 The Game
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 29,827* (13,548+)

20. 000+/- Transformers Prime
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 28,057* (11,878+)

21. 002- 007 Legends
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 27,995* (9,410+)

22. NEW Madden NFL 13
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 27,748* (NEW)

23. 001- Game Party: Champions
Grand Total (18th-8th): 22,788* (8,581+)

24. NEW Ninja Gaiden 3
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 19,482* (NEW)

25. 001- Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 18,837* (10,775+)

26. NEW Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 17,111* (NEW)

23. 000+/- Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Dec 29th): 13,988* (4,346+)

Overall Games Sold Grand Total: 4,175,985 (1,254,277+)

Games Sold Per Console: 1.71847486454 (0.194928747-)

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But wait, there's more to the story than just the retail sales data. Most of the games are also sold in the eShop (sadly Nintendo doesn't disclose actual sales numbers):
Trine 2
Little Inferno
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nano Assault Neo
Chasing Aurora
Mighty Switch Force!
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
ZombiU
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Assassin’s Creed 3
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
Darksiders 2
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Madden NFL 13
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge
Just Dance 4
Wheel of Fortune
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Nintendo Land
Jeopardy

And now for my thoughts:

Only 3,069,947 away from the 5.5 Million Sales Goal! Meaning they only need 236,149 Wii U sold per week, I think they can do it, or at least get within 250,000 units of that goal.

Other:
 
#57
Oh nose, would you look at that doom: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/08/wii-u-sales-actually-look-pretty-good

The sky is clearly falling.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#59
I have some sort-of bad news, now that we've got some better data, we know the Wii U was sold around 2,222,677, or 200,000 lower than we thought.
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#60
I think some Nintendo fans needs to "mature" a bit ( as much as the anti-Nintendo needs to stop the constant Nintendo negativity and bashing ).

There is a huge difference between saying :

- Nintendo sales are not good or Nintendo missed its sales target

AND

- Nintendo is doomed


Too often some Nintendo fans see the "Nintendo doom conspiracy" EACH time we address or report negative Nintendo sales.


The truth is that the Wii U sales are not good... Period.


I've been working in Sales for more than 10 years, and I've been receiveing quota for the same period of times.

The way it works is simple : either you make it or yon don't !

Now if you miss your target, does that mean it's the end of the world ? Does that mean you're getting fired ? Of course not.

What you need to do is to understand what did not work, maybe the market is slow, maybe you don't have the right strategy, maybe both or even something else.

Nintendo planned to sell 5.5 million Wii U by March 2013. there is just NO WAY it will happen with not even half of that number reached by the end of 2012 ! How more Wii U would sold outisde the holiday period ? You tell me...

So the question is now : why Nintendo fail to sell in line with the expectations ?


For me 3 mains problems :

- Mario U and Nintendoland are long seller, not Killer ap that sell crazy amount of consoles from the start. if a Smash 4 was at launch, you can be sure that the Wii U would have been sold out ! But Mario U and Nintendoland will have better lifetime sales than Smash 4 for sure.

- the lack of appeal of the basic model. I think Iwata said that they had some shortage of the Premium bundle in the US during the holiday period. That means, that consumers snobbed the Basic bundle. It's possible that Nintendo overestimated the appeal of the Basic model.

- 3rd party devs did not deliver next gen or new content
! Apart from Zombie U and Scribblenaut, there wasn't original content from the 3rd party devs. The vast majority of games were simple or poor ports. Not something likely to drive console sales really
 

Juegos

All mods go to heaven.
Moderator
#61
"Ex-Actarus" wrote: I think some Nintendo fans needs to "mature" a bit ( as much as the anti-Nintendo needs to stop the constant Nintendo negativity and bashing ).

There is a huge difference between saying :

- Nintendo sales are not good or Nintendo missed its sales target

AND

- Nintendo is doomed


Too often some Nintendo fans see the "Nintendo doom conspiracy" EACH time we address or report negative Nintendo sales.
I agree with this. It's true that Nintendo fans became like that after so many inane, actual "Nintendoomed" threads and speculation, and now have a hard time distinguishing between fair criticism and flaming. However, I think it's an opportunity for Nintendo fans to become more discerning critics, and a calling they should be proud to answer, instead of complacent to dismiss due to Nintendo's success.

I don't think much of the criticism Nintendo receives, but I do think highly of the Nintendo fans that can take that criticism and point out which part is true, which part isn't true, and which part actually means something to gamers and Nintendo alike.
 

DarkKevit

That old bloke from Crete...
#62
What needs to be made clear, is which console launch numbers, and for which consoles the figures are being compared to. If you compare the numbers to the Wii, then the WiiU is maybe a little behind the curve. If you compare it to the launch of the PS3/360 then it is well ahead of the curve. In either case the numbers need to be taken in the context of the sales environment the WiiU is being launched into. The sales of consoles and video games in general are severely down across the board compared to the time of previous launches.

I personally do not think that the WiiU has to match the numbers of the Wii to be a massive success for Nintendo, after all neither the PS3 or the 360 have sold even close to the numbers of the Wii, and no one is calling them doomed.
 
#63
wii-u is doing pretty good. it's selling just a little behind what the original wii sold in relatively the same time. considering that the wii sold really good at the start, and the wii-u is just a tad behind means its off to a good start. i think they can make their sales target of 5.5 million. we still have some great games coming out really soon, with more to come afterwards.
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#64
"Ex-Actarus" wrote: I agree Mike D, Vgchartz numbers are not scientific but they give a good estimate.
And if we take in consideration those estimates, the Wii U numbers are - once again - Good in the US, Great in Japan and Average in Europe.

The Wii U in Europe IS NOT DOING WELL, that's a fact ! Just take a look at the software numbers, games like Nintendoland or Zombi U are not in the top of the chartz. We're talking about bundled games, if they're not in the chartz, it's because the console is not selling well. Period.

In Japan the Wii U is doing as well as the Wii and Mario U as well as Wii Sport. That's a fantastic start over there !

In the US, the Wii U sales are good, but they did not have ANY impact on the PS3 or 360 sales.
Actually, it seems that the Wii U had a negative impact on the 3DS which is selling considerably less than last year ( twice less in november according to NPD ).

Nintendo wants to sell 5.5 million Wii U by the end of March 2013. At this stage it looks unlikely and I expect Nintendo to revise their expectations after the holidays seasons. 4 to 4.5 million seems more likely
.

Let's not forget that the Wii situation was different. The Wii was sold out for MONTHS ! This won't be the case with the Wii U. I don't expect the Wii U to sell well after the holidays with not a single major release in the next 6 months. Pikmin 3 and Rayman Legends will be great hits for the platform, but they won't be killer aps. So the sales will drop drastically after the holidays. We won't see those 700 K numbers/month "outside" holidays season the Wii was able to achieve ONLY in the US !!!

Besides, I think Nintendo will also need to address the situation with the Basic model. That model is not not selling at all !!! Either they should drop the price ( after E3 for example ) or include Nintendoland in the bundle.
I don't like to quote myself, but I just want to show I was right. Nintendo did lower their expectations.

Not that I'm happy about it, on the contrary. I dont' have any psychic skills or whatever...

The thing is that is was pretty obvious as ALL sales indicators weren't really good ! In Europe the Wii U NEVER had a good start ( except France ). In The US the sales dropped considerably after Thanksgiving ; and in Japan, despite a great start, the sales dropped as well ( selling nearly at Vita levels nowdays... ). But the most worrying thing - that I reported several times - are the software sales. Software sales are never been good, except for Nintendoland ( bundled ) and Mario U.

Nintendo is now expecting 4 million Wii U sold by the 31st of March 2013, that's going to be challenging as the Wii U is selling around 40 K weekly worlwide...

I just really hope Nintendo will bring big titles by May / June ( Pikmin 3 and Wonderfil 101 ) and then bring Mario 3D in September and Mario Kart in November. If they do that, I expect huge sales on the second half of 2013 ( around 15 million ).

I expect the Wii U to sell around 18 million units in 2013 which would be really great after that slower than expected start.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#65
Here's the latest extremely huge sales update
(and as always, if you want fancy text: http://technologyhobbit.blogspot.com/20 ... ch-of.html)

Wii U Launch Pitted Against The Launch Of PS3, 360, and Wii's ★ Wii U Sales Update 4


Welcome to the forth weekly Wii U sales update--once again a few weeks late. Sorry for taking so long to post this, I had problem after problem, I hope this post--and the launch comparison--makes it worth the wait! The reason some games (and the console itself) have lower total sales numbers than they did last week is because VGChartz redid the sales database.

Sales Update Overview
Unlike most sales updates, I use tons of different sources, and when more reliable sources come out, I replace the old sources. Meaning this is probably the most accurate up-to-date sales list around!

This weeks changes
A launch comparison of Wii U, Wii, PS3, Xbox 360, is included below the Wii U Sales Data.

Note: sales figures that have some data from VGChartz and other unreliable places are marked with a *

Wii U
US:
November 2012: 430,000 (125,733-)
December 2012: 460,000 (73,975-)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 29,173*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 15,459*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 11,590*

Total: 946,222*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 178,615*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 85,067* (-5,552)
Third Week (9th-15th): 69,739* (-4,435)
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 71,295* (-3,821)
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 50,641* (-2,997)
Sixth Week (30th-5th): 24,550*
Seventh Week (6th-12th): 11,256*
Eighth Week (13th-19th): 7,933*

Total: 494,661*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 308,570
Second Week (10th-16th): 126,916
Third Week (17th-23rd): 122,843
Forth Week (24th-30th): 69,386
Fifth Week (31st-5th): 67,083
Sixth Week (6th-12th): 20,715
Seventh Week (13th-19th): 16,654
Eighth Week (20th-27th): 13,746

Total: 745,913

Other:
First 5 Days (18th-24th): 50,249*
Second Week (25th-1st): 36,609*
Third Week (2nd-8th): 54,425*
Forth Week (9th-15th): 33,489*
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 31,865*
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 19,757*
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 11,421*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 4,797*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 3,494*

Total: 246,106*

Grand Total: 2,432,902*

Games (games are listed in order of how many sales they have)
1. 000+/- Nintendo Land:
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 323,709*
Second Week (25th-1st): 61,908* (-15,477)
Third Week (2nd-8th): 89,942* (-22,485)
Forth Week (9th-15th): 96,787* (-24,197)
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 99,062* (-24,766)
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 52,405* (-13,101)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 25,201*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 12,423*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 7,344*

Total: 768,781* (-55,058)

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 110,303* (-14,187)
Second Week (2nd-8th): 62,917* (-8,746)
Third Week (9th-15th): 49,606* (-6,935)
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 50,420* (-7,050)
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 31,100* (-4,048)
Sixth Week (30th-5th): 15,800*
Seventh Week (6th-12th): 8,956*
Eighth Week (13th-19th): 5,304*

Total: 346,599*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 72,121
Second Week (10th-16th): 41,497
Third Week (17th-23rd): 51,373
Forth Week (24th-30th): 40,570
Fifth Week (31st-5th): 41,426
Sixth Week (6th-12th): 11,703
Seventh Week (13th-19th): 8,740
Eighth Week (20th-27th): 5,914

Total: 276,831

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 57,125*
Second Week (25th-1st): 28,881* (-5,041)
Third Week (2nd-8th): 26,114* (-5,392)
Forth Week (9th-15th): 25,155* (-5,399)
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 25,690* (-5,518)
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 14,311* (-2,971)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 7,019*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 3,650*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 2,159*

Total: 190,104*

Grand Total: 1,563,815* (-13,979)

2. 000+/- New Super Mario Bros. U:
US:
2012: 580,000 (-42,302)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 22,692*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 11,154*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 6,122*

Total: 619,968*

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 79,518* (-10,989)
Second Week (2nd-8th): 44,107* (-6,580)
Third Week (9th-15th): 36,812* (-5,148)
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 39,836* (-5,571)
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 30,339* (-3,942)
Sixth Week (30th-5th): 15,296*
Seventh Week (6th-12th): 8,689*
Eighth Week (13th-19th): 5,248*

Total: 259,845*

Japan:
First Day (8th-9th): 163,528
Second Week (10th-16th): 71,011
Third Week (17th-23rd): 77,749
Forth Week (24th-30th): 56,321 (+239)
Fifth Week (31st-5th): 50,319
Sixth Week (6th-12th): 12,400
Seventh Week (13th-19th): 9,598
Eighth Week (20th-27th): 6,883

Total: 448,591*

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 47,002*
Second Week (25th-1st): 21,274* (-4,420)
Third Week (2nd-8th): 18,264* (-3,842)
Forth Week (9th-15th): 18,032* (-3,848)
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 19,538* (-4,170)
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 13,544* (-2,794)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 6,494*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 3,382*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 1,934*

Total: 149,464* (-7,264)

Grand Total: 1,461,450* (+51,492)

3. 000+/- ZombiU:
US:
First Week (18th-24th): 78,965*
Second Week (25th-1st): 11,000* (-8,391)
Third Week (2nd-8th): 14,001 (-9,941)
Forth Week (9th-15th): 13,398* (-7,278)
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 8,235* (-4,474)
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 3,938* (-2,138)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 2,664*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 1,171*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 798*

Total: 157,009* (-22,839)

Europe:
First 2 Days (30th-1st): 46,287* (-6,635)
Second Week (2nd-8th): 20,951* (-4,768)
Third Week (9th-15th): 15,851* (-2,217)
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 13,841* (-1,935)
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 8,797* (-1,229)
Sixth Week (30th-5th): 4,224*
Seventh Week (6th-12th): 2,561*
Eighth Week (13th-19th): 1,892*

Total: 120,510*

Japan:
First 2 Days (8th-10th): 12,497*
Second Week (10th-16th): 4,229*
Third Week (17th-23rd): 3,061*
Forth Week (24th-30th): 2,337*
Fifth Week (31st-5th): 2,513*
Sixth Week (6th-12th): 1,136*
Seventh Week (13th-19th): 1,152*

Total: 22,124*

Other:
First Week (18th-24th): 13,935*
Second Week (25th-1st): 9,476* (-2,561)
Third Week (2nd-8th): 5,882* (-2,530)
Forth Week (9th-15th): 4,944* (-1,646)
Fifth Week (16th-22nd): 3,706* (-1,105)
Sixth Week (23rd-29th): 2,127* (-577)
Seventh Week (30th-5th): 1,158*
Eighth Week (6th-12th): 624*
Ninth Week (13th-19th): 449*

Total: 42,301* (-6,188)

Grand Total: 317,800* (-29,168)

4. 001+ Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Japan (8th-Jan 19th): 189,210 (+26,890)

Grand Total: 189,210 (+26,890)

5. 001+ Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 72,173* (-191)
Europe (Nov 30th-Jan 19th): 60,642* (-220)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 22,609* (-69)

Grand Total: 155,424* (-480)

6. 002- Call of Duty: Black Ops II
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 91,754* (-10,535)
Europe (Nov 30th-Jan 19th): 37,920* (+90)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 22,367* (-1,844)

Grand Total: 152,041* (-12,289)

7. 000+/- Just Dance 4
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 92,243* (+4,612)
Europe (Nov 30th-Jan 19th): 36,197* (-1,547)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 22,169* (+559)

Grand Total: 150,609* (65,388+)

8. 000+/- Scribblenauts: Unlimited
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 107,760* (-3,705)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 19,017 (-880)

Grand Total: 126,777* (-5,974)

9. 000+/- Assassin's Creed III
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 57,861* (-3,482)
Europe (Nov 30th-Jan 19th): 31,757* (+1,366)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 15,379* (-395)

Grand Total: 104,997* (-2,511)

10. 000+/- Batman: Arkham City
US (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 61,481* (-4,641)
Europe (Nov 30th-Jan 19th): 25,937* (+677)
Other (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 15,072* (-708)

Grand Total: 102,490* (-4,672)

11. 000+/- Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 81,907* (-3,014)

12. 001+ Skylanders Giants
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 77,804* (+13,655)

13. 001- ESPN: Sports Connection
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 68,353* (-2,632)

14. 000+/- FIFA 13
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 53,972* (-1,710)

15. 000+/- Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 47,625* (-395)

16. 001+ Sing Party
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 47,454* (+4092)

16. 001- Darksiders II
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 47,323* (+1,273)

18. 000+/- Mass Effect 3
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 39,048* (-792)

19. 000+/- WipeOut 3 The Game
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 27,850* (-1,977)

20. 001+ 007 Legends
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 26,728* (-1,267)

21. 001- Transformers Prime
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 25,975* (-2,082)

22. 000+/- Madden NFL 13
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 24,905* (-2,843)

23. 000+/- Game Party: Champions
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 21,426* (-1,362)

24. 001+ Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 19,189* (+352)

25. 001- Ninja Gaiden 3
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 18,015* (-1,467)

26. 000+/- Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 16,429* (-682)

27. 000+/- Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 15,363* (+1,375)

28. NEW Romance of the Three Kingdoms XII
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 5,176* (NEW)

29. NEW NBA 2K13
Grand Total (Nov 18th-Jan 19th): 877* (NEW) incomplete

Overall Games Sold Grand Total: 4,990,590 (+814,605)

Games Sold Per Console: 2.05129100967 (+0.332816145)

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But wait, there's more to the story than just the retail sales data. Most of the games are also sold in the eShop (sadly Nintendo doesn't disclose actual sales numbers):

1. Balloon Fight
2. The Cave
3. Little Inferno
4. Trine 2: Director’s Cut
5. Mighty Switch Force! Hyper Drive Edition
6. Nano Assault Neo
7. New Super Mario Bros. U
8. Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
9. Scribblenauts Unlimited
10. ZombiU
11. Assassin’s Creed III
12. Darksiders II
13. Chasing Aurora
14. Funky Barn Download
15. Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
16. Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge
17. Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
18. Just Dance 4
19. Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
20. Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth

And now, for the moment you've all been waiting for.........

The Wii U Launch VS. The Launches of The PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii's
















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My opinion:
Hasn't been a good last few weeks, but I don't think it can get any worse than this, so that's good I guess. As for how it's been doing compared to the 360, PS3, and Wii overall. Pretty good, it's not some "god like" console combining the third-party game sales of the 360 and the hardware and first-party sales of the Wii, but it's doing a good job of doing a mix of both. I'm now more confident that the Wii U will get more AAA M-rated third-party support than the Wii, while selling a ton of consoles.

Who do you think had a better launch (saleswise)?
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#66
Wow TechnoHobbit, once again amazing numbers that you bring there !
It's really great to see all those stats there. Especially for games.
Good stuff as usual


Now I would disagree with you analysis.
I don't think it's fair to compare the Wii U launch to the 360 and PS3 launch, because the situation was way different back then

The PS3 had a TERRIBLE launch. So saying that the Wii U had a better luanch that the PS3 is just obvious. Besides, the PS3 launches in Europe in Spring 2007, so not sure that all the data you presented take that into account.

The 360 WAS NOT the great console that we know today. It was a challenger. A successor to a console that barely sold 25 million copies. So Of course the Wii U would do better than the 360.

The "ONLY" relevant comparison to me is against the Wii launch. The Wii U is the successor the most sucessful platform of last gen. So people were expecting to see how the Wii U perform against the Wii. You don't compare the sales of the Iphone 5 to the sales of the Galaxy II, but to the sales of the Iphone 4S. I don't mean those comparison should not be made, I'm just saying that the most relevant one is the sales with the Wii.

That said.

I agree with you that the launch is the disaster some videogames media are so pleased to report. The Wii U will be fine !
I think the sales will drop until March. Then the sales will go up slowly and should get a real boost coming to summer with the first waves of big games ( Pikim 3 and co ).
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#67
Wow TechnoHobbit, once again amazing numbers that you bring there !
It's really great to see all those stats there. Especially for games.
Good stuff as usual


Now I would disagree with you analysis.
I don't think it's fair to compare the Wii U launch to the 360 and PS3 launch, because the situation was way different back then

The PS3 had a TERRIBLE launch. So saying that the Wii U had a better luanch that the PS3 is just obvious. Besides, the PS3 launches in Europe in Spring 2007, so not sure that all the data you presented take that into account.

The 360 WAS NOT the great console that we know today. It was a challenger. A successor to a console that barely sold 25 million copies. So Of course the Wii U would do better than the 360.

The "ONLY" relevant comparison to me is against the Wii launch. The Wii U is the successor the most sucessful platform of last gen. So people were expecting to see how the Wii U perform against the Wii. You don't compare the sales of the Iphone 5 to the sales of the Galaxy II, but to the sales of the Iphone 4S. I don't mean those comparison should not be made, I'm just saying that the most relevant one is the sales with the Wii.

That said.

I agree with you that the launch is the disaster some videogames media are so pleased to report. The Wii U will be fine !
I think the sales will drop until March. Then the sales will go up slowly and should get a real boost coming to summer with the first waves of big games ( Pikim 3 and co ).
Thanks, you make some fair points, for the most part I agree that the comparison wasn't the most fair. But I also think it isn't fair to compare the Wii U's launch to the Wii's. since when the Wii launched the worldwide economy was much, much, better, and it costed $50-100 less.
I 100% agree with your sales forecast!
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#68
We have the new sales numbers from NPD.
Apparently the Wii U sold 57 K in the month of January.
That's horribly low ! 5 times less than the 360.

We know the Wii U has around 12 K units sold each week in Japan.
The numbers are similar in Europe.
So that means that the Wii U is selling around 150 to 160 K worldwide in January.
I expect 120 K in February and 350 K in March
We know the Wii U sold 3 Million by the end of December.
So there is just no way for Nintendo to reach the the 4 million target for the end of the fiscal year.
I will expect 3.6 Million at best ( thanks to better sales in march with few new games ) for the whole fiscal year.
eight: normal;">Techno Hobbit, I'm waiting for your analysis :)

I still keep my 18 million predicition for the whole 2013 year.

Source : http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/15/npd-january-xbox-360-moves-28100-units-report-puts-wii-u-sales-at-57000/
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#69
Gamasutra's take:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186741/At_57K_sold_Wii_Us_January_performance_is_historically_abysmal.php
Total launch window, it's not bad.

But month-to-month is a far different story.

I'm not one to run to Nintendoom, but it's not a great place for them to be right now.
No killer app. They need to give people a reason to buy the console. Nintendo Land isn't it. NSMB isn't it.
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#70
I'm really optimistic for the second part of the year.
The new 3D Mario, new Mario Kart, Pikmin 3, Wind Waker HD, will do wonders for Wii U Sales this year.
It's just a REAL pity Nintendo did not learn ANYTHING from the 3DS launch.

Yes the overall launch numbers are not bad, but at this rate the Wii U sales will be below the PS3 and 360 launch sales in a matters of weeks...

EDIT : The Gamecube number is higher, but I think it's the Melee effect...
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#71
^If the GC was higher purely due to Melee, it all but proves that Nintendo just didn't put out a piece of system-selling software this time.
2D Mario tends to have long legs, of course, but I don't know if it's a system seller. It hasn't proven to be on Wii U yet.
February won't be great shakes either, I'd wager. March will finally start delivering games, but not marquee megatons. If Nintendo doesn't want to back themselves in another 3DS-type price cut, they better start bringing out the big guns.
 
#72
^If the GC was higher purely due to Melee, it all but proves that Nintendo just didn't put out a piece of system-selling software this time.
2D Mario tends to have long legs, of course, but I don't know if it's a system seller. It hasn't proven to be on Wii U yet.
February won't be great shakes either, I'd wager. March will finally start delivering games, but not marquee megatons. If Nintendo doesn't want to back themselves in another 3DS-type price cut, they better start bringing out the big guns.
I actually think NSMB U has in the sense that the sales would be much worse if the game wasn't there.
 

Majorbuddah

My real name is Dolemite
#73
Uh-oh: Nintendo sold 57,000 Wii U units in the U.S. in January
To put that figure into comparison, during the same period in its lifecycle, Nintendo's Wii hit 435,000 unit sales.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57569583-235/uh-oh-nintendo-sold-57000-wii-u-units-in-the-u.s-in-january/
 

repomech

resident remnant robot relic
#74
^If the GC was higher purely due to Melee, it all but proves that Nintendo just didn't put out a piece of system-selling software this time.
2D Mario tends to have long legs, of course, but I don't know if it's a system seller. It hasn't proven to be on Wii U yet.
February won't be great shakes either, I'd wager. March will finally start delivering games, but not marquee megatons. If Nintendo doesn't want to back themselves in another 3DS-type price cut, they better start bringing out the big guns.

Yep. In addition the system is more expensive than their recent offerings were at launch (3DS debacle excepted). That may well be warranted by what's under the hood, but if the games available don't showcase and capitalize on what's under the hood (and they don't), why would the consumer want to pay a premium for tech that isn't being used?

2D Mario on the Wii was one thing. A new 2D Mario experience hadn't been in people's living rooms in a generation, the system was comparatively cheaper and more durably kid friendly with a lot of parents aware of its existence and sold on the idea. There was already a massive install base for the Wii, and it had a small but respectable library of some other games. This time? It's charging more to see the same trick everyone just saw, to scratch an itch many just scratched, and there isn't the same public awareness and attention on the system in the first place.
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#75
To put that figure into comparison, during the same period in its lifecycle, Nintendo's Wii hit 435,000 unit sales.To put that figure into perspective, if Gamasutra is right, the $600-version of the PS3 never even had a month that bad.
Yep. In addition the system is more expensive than their recent offerings were at launch (3DS debacle excepted). That may well be warranted by what's under the hood, but if the games available don't showcase and capitalize on what's under the hood (and they don't), why would the consumer want to pay a premium for tech that isn't being used?

2D Mario on the Wii was one thing. A new 2D Mario experience hadn't been in people's living rooms in a generation, the system was comparatively cheaper and more durably kid friendly with a lot of parents aware of its existence and sold on the idea. There was already a massive install base for the Wii, and it had a small but respectable library of some other games. This time? It's charging more to see the same trick everyone just saw, to scratch an itch many just scratched, and there isn't the same public awareness and attention on the system in the first place.
I think you may have a very good point there. When you don't have a home console 2D Mario for decades, that's one thing. There was obviously some pent-up demand for it. But replicating that may have been impossible. It looks like it. And Nintendo put all their chips on that, too. I don't quite understand why. No Excite racer, no marquee action/adventure to fall back on. I mean, their last marquee title was Skyward Sword. It can't be that all of their resources have just been sitting on their hands.(Heck, from a third party POV, no NFS, which will thankfully be remedied next month.)
Things will get better, simply because we have games coming. But Nintendo needs to step up its game here, both in delivering games and marketing.
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#76
Uh-oh: Nintendo sold 57,000 Wii U units in the U.S. in January
To put that figure into comparison, during the same period in its lifecycle, Nintendo's Wii hit 435,000 unit sales.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57569583-235/uh-oh-nintendo-sold-57000-wii-u-units-in-the-u.s-in-january/


This month was really really bad ! But again, this was expected.
I've been warning everybody here about the Wii U Sales for weeks !
But many here keep claiming the sales were amazing even if ALL the data was showing the contrary.

But again, The Wii U will recover in a even more spectacular way than the 3DS !
We saw what the "Trinity" ( Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate ) did for the 3DS in 2011.
I'm expecting an even bigger impact with Mario 3D, Wind Waker HD and Mario Kart on Wii U.
Those 57 K of january ( and February will be even worse... ) will be forgotten.

That negativity and constant talk in videogames media about Nintendo losing the next gen is absolutely RIDICULOUS ! But...
We've there before...
The Wii U has been out for just few months and we don't EVEN have seen what the PS4 and the 720 will do.
After E3 2005 ALL ANALYSTS, ALL JOURNALISTS ON THE PLANET, were predicting a PS3 COMPLETE DOMINATION !
The Wii won the gen in less 4 years. But...
We've there before...
After the 3DS launch debacle ALL ANALYSTS, ALL JOURNALISTS ON THE PLANET, were predicting that the handheld market was dead and that the 3DS was dead on arrival.
Now the 3DS is the hottest and best selling console system outhere... NOT EVEN close !

So let's just wait what impact the HUGE Nintendo 1st party titles will have in the end of 2013.
Let's see how the PS4 and the 720 will resist to Mario Kart ! The most powerful Killer Ap franchise in the industry !
Then and only THEN, we can worry or laugh.
I know I will laugh... :)
 

Aki

Well-Known Member
#78
Honestly, who really cares about sales?
I see sales threads all the time over at IGN and people are constantly talking about sales, which is kind of weird considering that none of us own stock in the company. I've checked out other boards and forums for other consoles and they rarely talk about sales, they mostly just talk about the games on their preferred console. Surely, there are some titles to talk about and not worry about sales.
 
#79
Honestly, who really cares about sales?
I see sales threads all the time over at IGN and people are constantly talking about sales, which is kind of weird considering that none of us own stock in the company. I've checked out other boards and forums for other consoles and they rarely talk about sales, they mostly just talk about the games on their preferred console. Surely, there are some titles to talk about and not worry about sales.
Sustained Poor Sales = No Quality 3rd Party Multiplats/ExclusivesOkay Sales = Some Quality 3rd Party Multiplats/ExclusivesGood Sales = More Quality 3rd Party Multiplats/ExclusivesGreat Sales = Even Moer Quality Party Multiplats/Exclusives
Sales matter even to those who don't own a stock because you're making an investment when you purchase a next-generation console or handheld. Lots of people invested in the Vita and lots remain unsatisfied.
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#81
Honestly, who really cares about sales?
I see sales threads all the time over at IGN and people are constantly talking about sales, which is kind of weird considering that none of us own stock in the company. I've checked out other boards and forums for other consoles and they rarely talk about sales, they mostly just talk about the games on their preferred console. Surely, there are some titles to talk about and not worry about sales.
I'd rather not, tbh. But we're a site that runs news, and this happens to be news, too (so it'll make its way into some articles).
But you're absolutely right that we're not stockholders or anything. We're gamers first. I imagine Nintendo's fortunes will look better once they get some more Nintendo games out there, though.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#82
Welcome to the Wii U Sales Update 7. It's been 5 weeks since the last update and Wii U sales went up dramatically, from 28K to 58K to 68K in two weeks. The reason? Games like Lego City and Monster Hunter came out. Yes, a Lego game and a HD port of a niche 3 year old game made the sales go up 30-40K for at least two weeks in a row, if these games could sale that much imagine what games like 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Pikmin 3, and Wind Waker HD could do! I think these past few weeks just show the Wii U will do good once it has the games.Sales Update Overview
Unlike most sales updates, I use multiple sources, and when more reliable sources come out, I replace the old sources. Meaning this is probably the most accurate up-to-date sales list around.

This weeks changes

I made a new section named "Top News" at the top, that showcases all of the most interesting news in this update. I have made a few other minor changes as well. More major changes will be made next update.
; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Note: sales figures that have some data from VGChartz or other unreliable places are marked with a *Top News
February 2013 US sales were 24K high than expected.

Since the last update the Wii U's sales worldwide have been:

Feb. 24th-Mar. 2nd: 30,750
Mar. 3rd-Mar. 9th: 29,410
Mar. 10th-Mar. 16th: 28,152
Mar. 17th-Mar. 23rd: 58,965
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 68,735Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Total: 216,012

In comparison the 360 sold (back in 2006):

Feb. 19th-Feb. 25th: 80,869
Feb. 26th-Mar. 4th: 73,640
Mar. 5th-Mar. 11th: 61,215
Mar. 12th-Mar. 18th: 66,316
Mar. 19th-Mar. 25th: 103,369

Total: 385,409

eue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">And the PS3 (back in 2007):Feb. 11th-Feb. 17th: 53,197
Feb. 18th-Feb. 24th: 49,869
Feb. 25th-Mar. 3rd: 80,401
Mar. 4th-Mar. 10th: 79,434
Mar. 11th-Mar. 17th: 58,436

Total: 321,337

And the Wii (back in 2007):

Feb. 25th-Mar. 3rd: 200,263
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Mar. 26th-Mar. 31st: 155,072

Total: 929,224

Wii U sales VS. 360, PS3, 3DS, etc. at week 19



The following numbers are assuming the Wii U sales an average of 50K per week for the next how-many-weeks-it-says:

lvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Weeks Until PS3 Sales Overtake the Wii U's: 3 (April 20th)Weeks Until 360 Sales Overtake the Wii U's: 9 (June 1st)Weeks Until PSP Sales Overtake the Wii U's: 10 (June 8th)

New Games:

Tank! Tank! Tank! (Japan ONLY):

Feb. 18th-Feb. 23rd: 4,714
Feb. 24th-Mar. 2nd: 1,877
Mar. 3rd-Mar. 9th: 1,948
Mar. 10th-Mar. 16th: 1,984
x; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Mar. 17th-Mar. 23rd: 2,163Mar. 24th-Mar. 31st: 2,237

Total: 14,923

The Amazing Spider-Man:

Mar. 5th-Mar. 9th: 91 (incomplete)
Mar. 10th-Mar. 16th: 991
Mar. 17th-Mar. 23rd: 1,193
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 2,870

Total: 5,145 (incomplete)
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Lego City: Undercover:
Mar. 18th-Mar. 23rd: 90,416
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 68,341

Total: 158,757

The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct:

Mar. 19th-Mar. 23rd: 6,982
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 3,655

Total: 10,637

e', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Need for Speed: Most Wanted:Mar. 19th-Mar. 23rd: 6,953
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 4,590

Total: 11,543

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (US & Europe ONLY):

Mar. 19th-Mar. 23rd: 61,297
Mar. 24th-Mar. 30th: 24,349

Total: 85,646

52, 252);">Game & Wario:Mar. 28th-Mar 31st 22,491
Total: 22,491

Dragon Quest X

Mar. 30th-Mar. 31st: 33,302

Total: 33,302


US Pre-Order Charts (April 6th):

Pikmin 3: 45,420
Rayman Legends: 26,360Wii Fit U: 22,398
Wii U

US:

November 2012: 430,000
December 2012: 460,000
January 2013: 57,000
February 2013: 64,000 (+24K)
Fifteenth Week: 9,631*
Sixteenth Week: 9,221*
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Total: 1,079,945* (+103,464)

Europe:

First 2 Days (30th-1st): 178,615*
Second Week (2nd-8th): 85,067*
Third Week (9th-15th): 69,739*
Forth Week (16th-22nd): 71,295*
Fifth Week (23rd-29th): 50,641*
background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Sixth Week (30th-5th): 22,096*
Seventh Week (6th-12th): 11,256*
Eighth Week (13th-19th): 8,487*
Ninth Week (20th-26th): 7,847*
Tenth Week (27th-2nd): 8,828*
Eleventh Week (3rd-9th): 8,013*
Twelfth Week (10th-16th): 8,709*
Thirteenth Week (17th-23rd): 7,739*
Fourteenth Week (24th-2nd): 6,982*
Fifteenth Week (3rd-9th): 7,267*
line-height: 20px; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Sixteenth Week (10th-16th): 6,494*Seventeenth Week (17th-23rd): 13,606*
Eighteenth Week (24th-30th): 16,310*

Total: 596,159* (+50,659)

Japan:

First Day (8th-9th): 308,570
Second Week (10th-16th): 126,916
Third Week (17th-23rd): 122,843
Forth Week (24th-30th): 69,386
lor: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Fifth Week (31st-5th): 67,083
Sixth Week (6th-12th): 20,715
Seventh Week (13th-19th): 16,654
Eighth Week (20th-27th): 13,746
Ninth Week (28th-3rd): 12,959
Tenth Week (4th-10th):12,185
Eleventh Week: (11th-17th): 10,744
Twelfth Week (18th-24th): 9,633
Thirteenth Week (Feb 25th-Mar 3rd) 10,021
Fourteenth Week (4th-10th): 9,454
x; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); background-color: rgb(252, 252, 252);">Fifteenth Week (11th-17th): 9,539Sixteenth Week (18th-24th): 11,398Seventeenth Week (25th-31st): 22,829

Total: 854,675 (+63,241)

Other:

Total: 288,382* (+26,617)

Grand Total: 2,819,161* (+243,981)

This is all it'll let me post, sorry!
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#85
^
I would.

That's pretty old, and they've put out some weird numbers since then. I stopped paying attention to VGC one day when I decided to check up on the sales they had for Red Steel, to compare to Zombi U (both being Ubi launch titles for Nintendo home consoles). For the longest time, VGC had Red Steel listed as a million+ seller. But if you look now:
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/1872/red-steel/

It's about half of that. And they revised it years later. I used to think VGC was a useful ballpark estimate, but now I'm not so sure.
 

TechnoHobbit

Ash nazg durbatulûk
#87
I like VGChartz, I just try to remember the recent data may be off by 15%+. If you look at older data it's usually pretty reliable, unless it's a freak accident like Red Steel where they deleted 99% of the European data for no reason. Just keep an eye out for mistakes like that and VGChartz can be a pretty good tool.
 
#88
I like VGChartz, I just try to remember the recent data may be off by 15%+. If you look at older data it's usually pretty reliable, unless it's a freak accident like Red Steel where they deleted 99% of the European data for no reason. Just keep an eye out for mistakes like that and VGChartz can be a pretty good tool.
Think I'm going to use your stats for my article since you did a more thorough job that I felt like doing lol. (Which means I got to update my numbers)
 

Ex-Actarus

Well-Known Member
#89
Thanks Technohobbit got another great update :)

Monster Hunter Ultimate and Lego City Undercover really helped the improvement in Sales for the US and Europe.
In Japan, Dargon Quest X and Game & Wario had a small impact as well, but really not important.
This proves - once again - that GAMES HELP DRIVES HARDWARE.
Nintendo knows that better that ANYBODY and still they didn't do ANYTHING to support the Wii U in the first 6 month after the launch.
That's shocking !!! What the hell they were thinking ???
They saw what happened with the 3DS and they did the SAME thing !!!!
We're in April and we STILL don't have ANY idea when Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 will be released...
That's UNACCEPTABLE !!!
Still,
As I said several times in this thread, I expect a strong second half of 2013 for the Wii U.
I'm expecting Mario Kart and Mario 3D this year. We already know Wind Waker HD will come as well.
I'm also expecting the Retro game.
All that should bring incredible sales during the September to December period.
 
#90
I think thats what annoys me most about Nintendo. They spend all this time hyping and showering all their attention to 3DS and it makes it seem like they dont really give two shits about Wii U. Everything I see come out of their mouths are 3DS this 3DS that and it starting to annoy the living hell out of me. Your 3DS handheld is thriving and obviously you need to keep supporting it, but you dont talk about or advertise the Wii U or give anyone any clue of whats coming out this year or anytime in the near future, there's no excuse, its just a pathetic display on Nintendo's part.

Honestly the first 5-6 months,the failure lies squarely on Nintendo's shoulders alone imo. Which is why I'm hoping at E3 the show is entirely focused on Wii U and showing why its such a great system and show a good amount of games that will be out on it THIS YEAR and into 2014,if not, then Wii U is pretty much doomed imo(not Nintendo as a company obviously but the system will be in trouble).

I feel like E3 this year is Wii U's do or die point and I know it seems kinda funny saying that this early into the Wii U's life cycle but come on, Nintendo is showing ZERO effort that they care about the system(which obviously they do care about but dont seem like it) and if they continue this way and then have a lackluster E3 and if PS4/720 wow's everyone, then Nintendo is pickin to get steam rolled the first year into the next gen.

So for me personally I hope they get their heads out of their butt and wake up. E3 is their do or die moment, they have to calm their crap with the 3DS bs and focus more on Wii U, thats all it comes down to
 
#91
I, for one, don't feel like the situation is that intense.
If you're someone who only cares about First Party games, then you probably shouldn't have bought a Wii U this early in the first place (Besides, most people don't buy their console within the first 4 months after launch), but if Third Party games also interest you, things really aren't that bad. Plus, if you bought a Wii U and are complaining about not having the games you want to play at the moment, I can't muster up the sympathy for you. Sure we would have all loved a Zelda, 3D Mario, and Mario Kart, Metroid, etc right out of the box, but that wouldn't be practical or rational at all.
Zelda titles release infrequently and their releases are far apart and rightly so if we want a quality Zelda game. 3D Mario's are usually far apart as well. Super Mario Sunshine was released ~6 years after Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy 1 was released 5 years after Sunshine. It's been less than 3 ears since the release of Super Mario Galaxy 2. I'd much more prefer a quality 3D Mario than a rushed 3D Mario and don't have a problem waiting because waiting for quality is what I've been doing since N64 and I turned out to be a Nintendo enthusiast.
Super Smash Bros Meele took only about 2 years of development after the original, but Brawl took about 7. Now it's definitely possible for the next Smash Bros to come as early as Holiday 2013, but I'm really not planning on it which is understandable.
3D Metroid's, however, usually come out every 1 to 2 years so we're probably due for another game. I actually image that we'll see Metroid revealed at E3 2013 as a big Retro project.

[hr]Ultimately, knowing what the future beholds and, personally, considering the fact that I was content with not purchasing a Wii until 2008 (Didn't even purchase my Wii U until March 2013), I'm completely fine with waiting for quality first party titles (Obviously within a reasonable amount of time). Where else are you going to get a plethora of constantly quality first party titles? Sony? Not really. Microsoft? Definitely not.
If you ask me, I don't think Nintendo needs to "wake up", I believe all this silence actually has something to do with Nintendo making preparations for big announcements.
 
#92
Your're more hopeful than I am Jace.

I personally cannot stand the lack of enthusiasm for Wii U Nintendo is showing and I think they need to get off their butts and do something. Where is our third party Nintendo Direct we were promised? yes I know if you want third parties, you really have to go microsoft or Sony, but thats not the problem here, its that the problem is Nintendo made its fans a promise and has yet to live up to it and seem to be ignoring the Wii U in general.

Its a fact they need to step up their advertisement for the Wii U and put more time and resources into it cause no one can deny that at this moment its extremely lack luster.

Nintendo is my main company of choice when it comes to gaming but I'm not going to sit and say ''oh they're doing great'' when they're not lol
 
#93
Your're more hopeful than I am Jace.

I personally cannot stand the lack of enthusiasm for Wii U Nintendo is showing and I think they need to get off their butts and do something. Where is our third party Nintendo Direct we were promised? yes I know if you want third parties, you really have to go microsoft or Sony, but thats not the problem here, its that the problem is Nintendo made its fans a promise and has yet to live up to it and seem to be ignoring the Wii U in general.

Its a fact they need to step up their advertisement for the Wii U and put more time and resources into it cause no one can deny that at this moment its extremely lack luster.

Nintendo is my main company of choice when it comes to gaming but I'm not going to sit and say ''oh they're doing great'' when they're not lol
Well, yeah. That's just it. I'm more optimistic, but I also see exactly where you're coming from.
In my opinion, the number one problem (Which I'll go into detail probably tomorrow when I post up my editorial) is the marketing and I think Nintendo knows they're getting bit in the butt by their actions with Wii U's predecessor. Essentially, by making the Wii a non-HD console with more focus on local play than online play, yeah they sold to broader audience, but they also lost a lot of the traditional gaming audience (the core, hardcore, call it what you will). So now as Nintendo's Wii is starting to die (Declining hardware/software sales, etc), the company is forced to put out the Wii U, and probably earlier than they wanted to at that. What Nintendo is now realizing is that their choices with the Wii (limiting the hardware) are coming back to bite them in the sense that now Nintendo has to play some major catch up as far as online gaming goes. It's not that they don't have the tools, but it's more because everyone is already using Xbox Live and PSN. Michael Pachter actually had a really good analogy comparing Wii U situation to Google+'s situation, everyone is already using Facebook and since Google was late to the party, even though they have a really neat system, everyone and their friends are already using Facebook.
The best way for Nintendo to get Wii U out of this situation is to market their console like they did with the Wii, but oh ho ho, that just brings me to my next point. Remember how I said that Wii probably forced Nintendo to release the Wii U earlier than they anticipated? Yeah, well this theory probably caused them problems too in that Nintendo wasn't particularly ready to bring out top notch first party or exclusive software to market along with the Wii U. 3rd Party developers were still in the middle of creating their next big games (Watch_Dogs, GTA, etc) and frankly, so was Nintendo as it seems. So now Nintendo is forced to release a game called NintendoLand which plays more like a tech demo than an actual solid game and didn't land the way Wii Sports did unsurprisingly (Don't get me wrong though, the game is still fun) and now Nintendo must to dread through this drought until Q3/Q4 when they'll finally have something to show and when a bunch of other quality titles are releasing.
So essentially, It's not that I'm trying to spin bad news into good news, but I'm rather coming from the perspective that Nintendo is probably realizing that they know they took a dump on themselves by limiting the Wii's hardware and now know what they need to make up for.

[hr]TLDR? Nintendo shat on themselves with the Wii, but I'm almost certain that Q3/Q4 of 2013 and the rest of 2014 is when Wii U will start to shine bright.
 
#94
Actually I did read it all and hope you're right. I love Wii U, it just frustrates me with the nonchalant way Nintendo seem to be going about it at the moment lol
 
#95
Lol yeah, I've gone through that feel. I'm expecting a Nintendo Direct this month. Hopefully it announces more release dates because that what we really need right now. (and btw, Nintendo didn't actually promise a third party Nintendo Direct, that was actually a rumor)
 
#96
I could've sworn I specifically saw/heard them say a third party direct would come ''shortly'' or ''soon'' during their jan conference

however on the other note, they really do need release dates for Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3, its getting rather sad honestly. Both will be day one purchases for me but good lord, i gotta know when they're coming out lol
 
#97
Yeah, I some apparently reliable guy on a video on the Internet hinted that we would be having a third party Nintendo Direct. Maybe we are going to be getting one, but just not when he had said we would.
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#98
But do those infrequent screw ups really render the entire system as unreliable?


They're not infrequent.
That piece also gives Techno a reason for Red Steel's European revision ("Walton freely admits the numbers were based on zero actual data for the entire European market, just pure extrapolation"). Don't get me wrong, VGC has a place for people interested in the wonky side of game sales, but it's basically down to a lot guesstimating. And if you go by VGC numbers, you always have to say "that's a ballpark estimate, or could be substantially off" (it says something about the confidence they have in their own numbers that when they get an NPD report, they immediately change their own figures, never the other way around). I used to stick up for them a lot more, mind you. And they could get a lot better in the coming years.
 

EvilTw1n

Even my henchmen think I'm crazy.
Moderator
#99
Well, I guess we're about to have a shootout.

In one corner, we have Pachter guesstimating 55,000 units sold in the U.S.

Techno's numbers, some via VGC, say 68,945 in weeks 15-18.

The middle ground there would be 61,972. TBH, none of those are great shakes, and we'd have to wait not just for NPD, but for NPD's revision (they double-check, too) on March.

I gotta say, though...I just don't find myself caring right now, not like I used to. I'm confident that Nintendo is financially solvent for awhile.
 
Considering that Wii U's big gun games haven't even been released yet and Wii U still manages to output the numbers it does now, I don't see where I should be concerned.
 
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